The People’s Budget – an antidote to meaningless consultation

Big Society, we are told, is all about placing power in the hands of citizens – giving ‘ordinary people’ a say over what happens in their communities. Forget the brand (which some suggest is now so toxic that it is being quietly dropped from the Prime Minister’s lexicon), that’s somewhat irrelevant, as there is now a great deal of consensus between Parties over the principle of handing over power to local people. Of course the quid pro quo for devolving this power is that people will be expected to do more for themselves; stepping in to meet local needs that may previously have been provided by the state. For the foreseeable future, these ideas are going nowhere – whether or not they are called Big Society.

As the Prime Minister and his colleagues scrabble around for ideas to bring their ambition to life, you might have expected to hear far more about Participatory Budgeting (PB) than we have done. PB is a proven method for giving citizens real power – taking decisions over how public money is spent. If the government wanted to propel the Big Society discourse to an immediately tangible level, what better way to do so than by giving citizens control of the public purse strings? Despite the obvious links, there has been little championing of PB by Coalition Ministers. Something we now want to change.

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The People’s Budget is a new campaign supported by the PB Unit, Church Action on Poverty, New Start http://www.cles.org.uk/newstart/, Joseph Rowntree Charitable Trust and Urban Forum. We want to see people up and down the country having a real say over how money is spent in their communities and we think PB is a great way to do this. We are taking the Prime Minister at his word and we’re offering him a fantastic solution to achieve his aims!

Wouldn’t you like to have real control over how money is spent where you live? Participatory Budget is a fantastic antidote to the constant trickle of consultation over policy matters that have little relevance to people’s lives. It’s real, practical and meaningful. It gives people a say without requiring them to take over a service just to have a say over how it’s delivered.

Just a few years ago PB seemed to have come of age. Propelled into the mainstream public policy by the then Secretary for Communities and Local Government, Hazel Blears, local authorities across the country ran PB exercises of their own. The government even published a national PB strategy setting out its ambition of PB being used in every local authority in the land by 2012. Whilst central government may have gone sadly quiet on this, we think it’s an aim worth hanging on to! [Why is it that on the rare occasions when government produces something that is ambitious and meaningful it is too quickly forgotten and abandoned? Remember Firm Foundations?]

As local authorities grabble with the incredible pressures of budget cuts and increased demand, what better way to ensure that public money is responsive to local priorities? We have around 14 months till the end of 2012….surely there’s still time to help the government achieve its long forgotten ambition to bring PB to every community in the country?

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15 thoughts on “The People’s Budget – an antidote to meaningless consultation

  1. We have some PB in Lewisham via local ward assemblies. It kind of works with setting of priorities and distribution of funding to meet the priorities, although it does have its drawbacks.

  2. PB represents a theoretical move in the right direction. But, like personalisation, theory seldom translates into practice. Some of the challenges of PB include….1 The framework for PB is usually still set by the ‘Treasury’ and its governance system. They decide what can be participated in and what can’t. In Arnsteins’ terms PB is often stuck between placation and partnership. It is ‘bread and circuses’ rather than a process of genuine empowerment.2 those who choose to participate are those who are already active agents in the system3 it is usually just the crumbs of the budget that are available for participation4 how budgets are allocated and invested are seldom the key problem that blights the lives of individuals and families – it can be a diversion – a deliberate mis-direction5 It creates an army of facilitators and conversational hosts who are able to lead those who engage to a seemingly timely and neat solution.6 The process of PB will favour the articulate, the vocal and the organised7 Leadership for PB is seldom strong enough to survive the first faltering steps of the learning process and professionals quickly take over the reins.8 it engages citizens in bureaucratic processes rather than engaging bureaucrats in citizen processes – remember McKnight’s Precautions to Governments

  3. I’m very excited by the People’s Budget and pleased to see several great organisations putting their weight behind participatory budgeting. However, I do have some concerns about it that are not covered on the website at http://www.thepeoplesbudget.org.uk/makethecase/concerns/One is the concern I share with Mike Chitty that PB is often just used for very small grants pots, and I would like to see the campaign do more to promote it’s use for big budgets. I’d be interested to hear what others think about whether some consultations on major budget decisions could be seen as participatory. Eg I’m thinking of Devon’s Tough Choices initiative, which seems to me to be an attempt at participatory budgeting on a large scale, though I’d be interested to hear what others who know it better think. http://www.toughchoices.co.uk/My other more serious concern about participatory budgeting is about how it addresses the interests and needs of minority and marginalised groups. For example, how is the case made to a group of citizens to support something that affects only small numbers of people in their community and/or is something they would rather not think about. Would a participatory budgeting approach support services for ex-offenders, ‘failed’ asylum seekers, drug users, sex workers or rape victims? Some may say that I am not giving groups of citizens enough credit for fairness or openness to different people, but I haven’t yet seen enough in PB about how it protects the interests of minorities. Very interested to hear what others experiences of this are.

  4. Thanks Tony for another great blog and glad to see peopleworking together on campaigns. I have been involved with PB and looked at it oiverseas for many years and hope the People’s budget moves us to a new level. I also recognise much of Mike’s concerns but feel that this campaign may help us move forward. If its ok I’ll respond to Mike’s bullet points in order…1. Yes, PB is about public budgets and so inevitably has the fingers of the treasury on it. We aren’t proposing a revolution after all…we still back represenative democracy despite its flaws – not much better ins available to us.. But the debate around public finances could do with some more people involved, so hopefully a campaign might take us a little further up Arnstein’s ladder. Or maybe move some people of the bottom rung towards the giddy heights of placation. Most us us are still stuck at consultation or therapy.2. Have you evidence for this? The whole point of PB, and shown in the UK and elsewhere is that it does bring new people into the arena. Hundreds of thousands now participate in Brazil every year via PB. That started somewhere…3. Yes. Thats why we need a bottom up campaign to demand a bigger say. If every authority gave just 1% of their budget to a real PB process that would be many millions across the UK. Not much of an ask… Just 1%.4. Deliberate misconception- thats sounds like PB is a conspiracy. Quite a big charge. Surely what the state does with our taxes and who decides is central to any democracy. Money is power, and PB projects across the world is trying to open up that debate.5. Its impossible everyone will all have the same information. But the whole point of PB is to grow the pool of knowledgeable committed people. Do you have a particular example where you feel PB is a manipulated programme (as if what normally happens isn’t). Just because its not perfect doesn’t mean it’s not worth trying surely?6. My experience is that when given the choice in a open democratic process ordinary people tend to not choose the most articulate, but choose to direct inevitably limited resources towards the grass roots, towards the most the passionate, the committed, the best value. When instead the decision is taken by a small panel of experts, as in most situations, they also favour people most like themselves. What we do already isn’t working. Maybe, just maybe, if given a chance, PB can help.7. That’s precisely why the People’s budget has been funded by Joseph Rowntree- to see if we break this pattern of the ‘haves’ making all the decisions.. This campaign is all about building new and stronger community leadership and a body of people that can challenge the status quo.8. Of course there are dangers. Without danger and risk little changes. For me its about building a new kind of deliberative space, a place where local knowledge can influence professional knowledge and political elites on a more equal basis. PB in the UK started as a bottom up grassroots campaign. Its acheived a lot just getting PB on the radar. Of course the forces of bureaucracy try to reclaim the ground. So thats why a new campaign for more real and meaningful PB is now needed. Its only just started, so lets give it a chance.

  5. I’m frequently to found on the sceptical side and would be raising similar points to Mike Chitty, who makes fully valid points. But on this issue I sense that something is changing. Its not a willing change but it is compulsive. I feel that we are at key moment where a number of different aspects make this a plausible. Austerity is for real. There are no optimistic prognosis in the market place. This will have significant effect on tax and therefore on public spend for some years to come. I think it is slowly reshaping the public expenditure narrative in the UK. Local politicians don’t want to make negative spending decisions. They’ll happy outsource some of this through PB. I know this from Liverpool – the city leaders, who would never give up these powers, are engaging is large budgeting consultation. This leads me to believe times they are a changing, to coin a term.Localism is an opportunity. Although many public bodies or citizens of have not yet understood how this works, and there are some confusing actions from Whitehall to boot, we have to run it and make it work. I have the same feelings about the Big Society, crap re-branding of an idea that many of us have been working for a long time.Last of all, I think with social technologies have the means to properly engage widen participation. There are range of channels from knee-to-knee through to social media where this can be managed. Its still going to be hard recruiting citizens to the task, but with a real opportunity to shape spending decisions and lots of way in and out of the process I think PB can act as ‘path to desire’ to mobilise citizens. Mike is right that there is a danger of of this becoming a bureaucratic exercise, but it should be an aim of the campaign to find ways and means to make this an informed and engaging process. I’m bloody optimistic that this campaign can gain traction and momentum, and that where adopted it can be made a success of . As Julian Dobson observed in his blog on the subject, we should at least just try: there’s no harm in failing to try an make this a reality.

  6. As long as we try tomake sure that those who choose to engage in PB are clear that this is the best option open to them for creating the future that they want. Engagement must be in the citizen’s best interests rather than in the best interests of the budget holder who may be ticking boxes for ‘engagement’.If there are other, better options available to citizens to advance their cause then we should encourage them to channel their energy and time elsewhere. Engaging citizens in bureacratic processes I suspect will rarely transform lives but may divert and misdirect….But the professionalisation of the empowerment industry will pay many a mortgage….

  7. I absolutely _love_ you guys. this is about the best thing that i could dream of :)the debate this post has stimulated is fantastic and to be honest, i’m not sure i have a tremendous amount to say(that adds much value).Of course – Mike/Isabel – you are right that there are risks that PB further exacerbates existing inequality and gives those who shout the loudest a greater say. But that is more likely to happen if organisations and people concerned with social justice and inequality are not involved (in PB or any other participation in decision making).However i believe, like Jez, that when PB is done well, it can be transformative, inclusive and enable really positive things to happen.the bottom line for me, is basically the same as Gary’s comment – we have opportunities right now that havent existed in the recent past (primarily because of not very nice things that are going on…but hey, glass half full n all) and we have to grasp them with both hands. If we dont (and this has been my Big Society mantra for over a year) then others will do and we are not likely to share their vision, values and ambitions.You gotta try right?huge thanks to all of you for instigating a really important and very robust discussion. As a meagre blogger of occasional random thoughts, i am so delighted to have helped in a small way to have stimulate such insightful and sophisticated debate!:)

  8. So the overall question appear to be: what can we do differently from last time? How can we do this from a citizen point of view? how can we reduce the role of intermediaries while still making it happen? how can we stop this being a distraction and ‘consultation’ exercise as budget cuts bite? Do we have good challenging examples of where it has been done with best intentions but not achieved..? might be a good place to start. Agree that there is drive in this to do better, and as always a huge amount of potential..Thanks@caseymorrison

  9. How do we make this work from the citizen’s point of view? Great question. Vital. But are we prepared to pursue it with rigour? I suspect that the desire for a campaign on PB did not come from the disenfranchised and disempowered…I hope I am wrong…If so, then we should hold our enthusiasm for PB lightly. It is just one tool in the toolbox for individual and collective empowerment, which we should keep firmly shut until we have really listened to what really matters most to the citizen(s). As Schumacher reminded us the first step in helping is to listen respectfully – not to brandish our latest cure for an ailment that has not yet been disclosed.So we should listen to the citizen and help him or her to establish exactly what matters to them most, what they are trying to achieve and what they are prepared to do in order to achieve it. If PB fits their bill as the best way to proceed then we invite them in with gusto. If other approaches have more appeal then we help them to find their way.Importantly we do not present PB as the new way to empowerment and a better world. Because they will not thank us for that.I am not in any way anti PB. But nor am I ‘for’ it. Just like I have no preference for a hammer over a screwdriver or a spirit level.

  10. Of course, in some parts of the world, especially Latin America but also in Europe and North America, PB is used to allocate many millions of pounds and has had a transformative effect. In the UK, the highest figure is £4.8 million and that was spent on mainstream service provision in Tower Hamlets. It is the case that the majority of initiatives here have involved small grants pots, but one should not suppose that these can’t make a significant difference to communities. If done well, the impact that PB can have on wellbeing, confidence and cohesion is not determined by the amount of money available. Ask the residents of Manton (Worksop) or Eastfield (Scarborough).We, in the PB Unit, are keen to see a shift towards councils making available a percentage of their total budgets – perhaps 1% to start with – and indeed The People’s Budget aims to encourage local campaigns to push for a similar outcome (even if a “small grants” project has to be the first step in that process).Isabel asks about the Devon CC budget initiative. Whilst their “Your Community, Your Voice” is a good example (and there are plenty of bad ones) of consultation, it is not PB. From what I know, there is no handover of power to citizens to participate in the actual decisions about the budget, no real transparency in how those decisions are made, and no opportunity for deliberation. The possibility of a deserving cause being overlooked in a PB initiative is a legitimate issue to raise and needs to be weighed carefully. There is always the risk of a “wrong” decision in a democracy. However, all our evidence suggests that, in an inclusive and participative process, the decisions people make are based not on self-interest, but on careful consideration of relative need and what will benefit the community; and that minority causes are not disadvantaged.

  11. Thanks for your reply Phil and the very interesting discussion here from everyone. Keen to make sure the issue of equality and marginalised groups continued to be properly addressed within PB, I guess the devil is always in the detail of how well it is carried out. I can imagine the power and potential of a wide group of people learning about and deciding to support an issue that affects a minority. Re the Devon example, it looks like the People’s Budget / PB Unit may need to clearly communicate the difference between participation and consultation and what the benefits of each are, because as public sector becomes (in some cases) more experienced at consulting on budget cuts, there is a danger that this might be seen as all that is necessary. Interested in the Tower Hamlets example of participation in £4.8m budget, I’ll look for more info on that.Incidentally do keep an eye out for a participatory guide being launched next week in the South West, more info at http://www.empowermentworks.blogspot.com

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